Stephen
i will touch on a few things from this particular post.
A) If you dont see yourself as an £8 per hour web designer then dont take on the work. The fact that it was your first ever professional assignment fully justifies my offer of £8 per hour. You were with me face to face and didnt voice or imply any dissatisfaction at my offer.
B)I actually said that im not a designer myself so cant complete the site, and that i had offered it to other people who hadnt delivered accurately enough
C)You didnt voice any concern about payment on completion
D)I had told you that Cre8tive Solutions was formed in June/July of this year and that i had been in business for 3 years - which is correct
E)THe sms project is different and had only been mentioned as you said you could do this
F) I have received no invoice from you, and as such no payment is due. You havent even finsihed the work according to our terms.
All in all Stephen i feel i have placed the ball in your court. I am professional enough to honour my word and if you want to complete the project then feel free. If not, please spare yourself the blushes of making a public request for a payment you are not yet due
[quote=Dweebazoid Web Design;7869]A month ago I answered
THIS advert placed on Gumtree by Jamie Kirk. I don't see myself as an £8 an hour web designer but this was to be very my first ever professional assignment so I jumped at the chance to get my first project.
Upon reading the advert I visited cre8tive-solutions.com. I wasn't particulalry impressed with what I saw and wondered if he was for real as good webdesigners tend to have good websites, so I asked if we could meet up.
I went to his flat and was told that the job involved redesigning the cre8tive-solutions website. He said he wasn't a designer himself, that he was a business man, and that no one from the company had enough spare time to work on the company site and that was the reason it looked so shoddy.
He told me that he would pay on delivery and I just wanted the contract as I'm a new business so I accepted these unreasonable terms.
When I got home from that meeting I googled him and his company, and found that he had an account here so I read his posts (I remember reading this very post a month ago) and immediately wondered why he had told me that his company had been running for three years when so much of his internet activity seems to start around July/August 2008. I told myself he was probably referring to his parent company and not cre8tive when he spoke of his three years in the business.
So I got my head down, built the blog, services page, portfolio gallery, setup a cool project management tool and put it all on a subdomain of my sisters website so he could look at it. I went to his house a 2nd time and he told me he was happy with everything but that he wanted some other features to be added, stuff that would take me a week to do, and so I agreed to this as I was already halfway in.
Once I had done the things he asked, I emailed him to let him know and asked if we could arrange payment. He had been in regular contact with me up until that point but as soon as I mentioned money, he went silent.
After a week of this, I noticed that the cre8tive-solutions website had gone down and I had grown tired of waiting for my cash so I emailed him to let him know that I was removing the work from my test site and if he wanted me to finish the the project he would need to pay me up front.
A few day's later I got an email from him advising that he was sorry for the delay in getting back to me and that he had been moving house (for a week and a half??) and that he did want me to complete the work. He also told me that he still wanted me to make an SMS application that we had spoken about which was to be my second project for him.
I haven't heard from him since then, and that was last Friday morning, a week ago.
I have learned some very important lessons. Firstly, in my search for information on Jamie Kirk, I found this place!! I signed up for an account the other day and was planning on coming along and introducing myself tonght when I noticed this thread again.
Secondly, from now on, I want 40% cash upfront or I don't get out of bed.
Thirdly, I want a contract, I want it in writing or you can bolt.
I don't imagine I will get 'munsoned' like this again.